I am looking for a 6.5 creedmoor bolt action hunting rifle for our place in north central west Texas. In fact, I frequently find myself out shooting with a Sig Cross even when I have much more expensive guns that I could be choosing. If not the ultralight, whats the best 7 PRC for around $1500? See also Gluck. Will be used mostly for white tail and hogs in Texas. In our testing, we had all of the guns chambered alike, but as soon as any of the reviewers shot the Tikka after shooting the other rifles, they all commented that the recoil felt heavier. I had a Waypoint 2020 6.5 PRC on order for a long while- when one finally showed up and I was able to handle it, I just could not warm up to it. You mentioned it once but I cant find a video where you review it? Fun to read through this after watching all the vids. I know you get requests for reviews a lot but Id be very interested in hearing your thoughts on the CVA Cascade line of bolt action rifles. So it is not a 700 rem action like the Bergara, So no MDT chassis at this time to match. So if I review it and love my copy, Id be convincing people to buy one and they very likely may not have the same experience. I purchased a Stockys carbon stock for my Vanguard 6.5 PRC Meateater rifle and was able to shoot a suppressed 5 shot group at 100 yards that measured under 1/2 moa. I might add for a hunting rifle the 6.5 Swede is superior to the 6.5 Screedmore. Honestly, you need to review one. Loved this article keep em coming! Franchi Momentum Elite Bolt-Action Rifle: Full Review - Guns and Ammo Floorplate, spring, and follower tilt out. Just my two cents, but would love to hear an honest review of these rifles. I like the straight comb with minimal drop and I found the cheek weld comfortable. The Sig Cross is the rifle that I have consistently used more than any other hunting rifle in my gun vault. The reasonwhen Im going to kill an animal, I want to kill it stone deadone well-placed shot. Available in: 6.5 Creedmoor, .308 Win, 277 Sig Fury. I own 30-06, i own a 300 win mag , now never pull anything out but the 300 win mag , it is a Browning A bolt with the belly clip , has the sweet spot muzzle break ,that takes care of half of the recoil and have the Remington butt pad . Both have 3 lug bolts with the lugs integral with the rest of the bolt body 3. Yes your quite right on that and its sad that the majority of hunters never bother to educate themselves in regards to the plethora of 6.5 mm cartridges invented over the years. Itd make a Backstreet Boy jealous. Would you please review the a CZ 600 Alpha? The narrow width put my eye behind the scope nicely but also leaves enough fudge factor for owners who will add an aftermarket cheek piece or wrap. Hey Jim, big fan of your Youtube channel and I always enjoy watching/reading your content. Cheers. I have been looking at the 6.8 western. Now I want another one and to get in to some long range and MAYBE some hunting. Theres something cool coming. and not hold up good with the recoil? Jim, Ive had three X bolts in 6.8 western in the past 8 months and all shot well but velocities were a good 100 fps or more below what was stated on box on three different brands. Ill keep one in mind next time Im in the market. In our testing, the Weatherby Vanguard shot the most accurately, although the difference between it, the Bergara and the Tikka was so small that I doubt we could call it statistically significant. A hammer fudged junk barrel that was obviously used. Accurate, lightweight, and comfortable with a great trigger, its a solid choice to fill your freezer this season. Thanks again and I look forward to future content. Problem is , Im not sure it is practical to spend so much on a custom for some folks. I love that Fierce Reaper but would probably have to sell another nice gun to get it and not sure I quite want to do that. I would pick 7mm Rem Mag since you mentioned long range. I also own a Savage 110 Ultralite in 6.5 PRC- fantastic accuracy, but I just could not warm up to the plasticy stock. Buy FRANCHI MOMENTUM For Sale Price - New and Used - In Stock 5. Could you add another tier or two? The only downsides I have read of it is its screw-on bolt-knob and the fact that you may need a few more tools to disassemble the rifle. I also like the Fierce Reaper and the Sako S20 for heavy-recoiling cartridges. I enjoy your videos on YouTube, very informative and you dont pull any punches, I like that. Removing the bolt, however, is easier thanks to a release lever located on the side of the action. Its like the girl you almost dated because you were such good friends and got along with great, but just never could fall in love with. I would love to get your take or even see a review on it. Im looking for a 7mm-08 in a left handed model. I like the action of the Howa better but the Proof barrel on the Savage. I am a huge fan of their 1911s and know they are big into precision rifles. Also, the very aged sporter stock design doesnt lend itself well to shooting long rangeespecially in such a light rifle. I have shot the Impulse and wasnt impressed. love the mauser style trigger guard/magazine. Ive seen your comments that fierce rifles have poor fit and finish and that customer service is also poor. The Sig Cross: Amazing design after some early quality control issues. I believe the momentum rifle could easily stack up against the models outlined in the under $500 category. Whats your opinion one the tikka t3x upr vs the waypoint 2020? He recommended a wildcat round, 7 mm SAW. In regards to the CVA and the Bergara, Im looking at getting one or the other in 7mm Mag. Tikka T3X or Franchi Momentum Elite - ALDEER.COM I recommend getting this Ruger American Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor if youll be hunting deer-sized game (or smaller than deer), want to have tons of inexpensive ammo options, and if youll also be using it for target shooting. All good options, but Id go with the Cross if youll be using it for any backcountry hunting. A junk injection molded plasticky stock that expands with heat and contracts with cold. Forearm checkering extends nearly all the way forward, ending just short of another molded-in and recessed sling swivel mount. And all the great work you do! Hes not huge. It tames the recoil of this 6.6-pound rifle extremely well. In regards to the Howa 1500 I got one in 300 PRC, it had a Houge stock, I installed a Bell & Carlson, put a Konos M30 on top and got a group the size of a 50 cent piece at a 100 yards. Looks great. Hey Jim, Customization * * * * $799.00 Add To Cart For Price. Spacers are included for length of pull adjustment. I knew an unknown secret that they did not know, its called grease and oil. Benelli Lupo should had definitely made the list Better rifle than most others mentioned in my honest opinion. I have the weather extreme in 25-05 that I purchased for a Pronghorn hunt topped with a Leupold VX6 HD. Never worried much about how my rifle looked either before or after the hunt. Overall, I think the best three rifles under $1,000 are the Tikka T3X Lite, the Bergara B-14 Ridge, and the Weatherby Vanguard. I enjoy watching your videos but havent found any with this specific manufacture. I am looking at loading with heavier grain bullets such as the Berger 30 cal 215 Hybrid or Berger 7mm 180 or 195 Grain bullets. Im really interested in them but can hardly find a proper review of them. What about the Winchester Model 70? So, if those ones should be avoided, what rifles SHOULD hunters consider? I also have ignored the Winchester M70 for exactly the reason you mentioned. Its just tough to get excited about because it has no single stand-out feature. I just bought a Savage Axis II XP in 308 after much research and debate amongst my hunting partners. and Solid brass bullet ,which I really like. The Weatherby Vanguard Meateater edition comes with Cerakote, threaded barrel, stiff stock and a pretty decent 2 stage trigger. Its become a turn off. I like the Sig Cross because its lightweight, easily adjustable to fit me or my kids, very accurate, and the short barrel and folding stock make it easily packable for hunts. Thanks. I had a question on my first rifle purchase. My mossberg patriot shoots like a custom rifle. Things happen and every animal is different, but I feel like its my duty to show that respect. This post contains affiliate links to help monetize this site. Which leaves Winchester, Weatherby, Tikka/Sako. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. You must log in or register to reply here. Franchi Momentum .308 Win Threaded 22" Bbl Htr Gry BA Rifle 41533. I seriously am not sure how you can improve on it. Hear hear. Will the new/faster twist rates make a difference to users? If a close friend asked me what hunting rifle to buy at each price point, these would be my recommendations: If you dont want to read this entire post, jump to the section for rifles in your budget. Italian? FRUSTRATING. Wow, what a shooter! If you had 1500-2500 just for one, which make would you drop that cash on? TOP DEALS View All Deals. Im giving the Momentum an extra star above average for the polished, fluted bolt and all the checkered ergonomic areas on the stock that fancy it up a bit. After reviewing and owning over 40 bolt-action hunting rifles, here are are the best of the best. bolt turn was a bit rough out of the box. Franchi Momentum All-Terrain Elite .223 Rem 18" 1:8" Bbl TrueTimber Strata/Midnight Bronze 10+1 Rifle 41751. Well yeah man its a larger case. I ended up buying a Bergara Mountain 2.0, which checked all the boxes for me as a hunting rifle. You mentioned in your latest live video that youre off the Savage Ultralight these days. Vlad is typical progtard. Id say Im in the sub-$1,500 range. The Tikka T3X Lite comes with an absolutely fantastic action. 80lbs maybe. Love you work and your research is unparalleled. Travis Skurray from Australia. Just remember one thing the price of the good older stuff keeps going up and up so when you waste your money on junk it never goes up in value as fast as the good stuff so when you do get around to buying something of quality you lost twice not once. Curious to hear your thoughts/experience with it. Hardware: Franchi Momentum Elite Varmint | An Official Journal Of The NRA Swelled and checkered grip areas are molded into both sides of the stock over the internal magazine and again at the beginning of the forearm section. Thank you. It also really liked this 147 grain MEN stuff that I bought in bulk cheap some years ago basically just for semi-auto plinking use. Boy, so many good 7 mags. Not many have been around since they are new this year. I got mine during their initial recall for $199. Id love to hear your thoughts on a modern option like the Extreme Weather SS MB. Beater rifles go until they cant. Wish I discovered your content sooner and thankful for all your hard work. Hey Jim! There are very few reviews and almost zero information about how the Howa carbon shoots. Franchi Momentum Varmint Elite .224 Valkyrie 24" 1:7 Bbl TrueTimber Prairie/Midnight Bronze 7+1 Rifle 41712. Been looking at the franchi momentum has anyone got this rifle ? franchi momentum for sale on GunsAmerica. Buy a franchi mome Backfire LLC owns and operates this website. Hi Jim, I dont own one. I even bought one Mauser with a shot out barrel knowing it was shot out for $240 dollars complete with scope and had a local gunsmith rebarrel it for me and reblue the whole gun and I had only $600 in it. Hi Jim, Not real excited about paying for a custom build so wondering what you would recommend I consider? What r your thought for a high end choice up to around the 3k range? As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. Its a push feed which means if you short stroke the bolt you can get a jam that I guarantee will take you half an hour to un-jam. Great deal. Ive never seen Sea Adler anywhere in the US, do you know if theyre imported? What do you think about the CZ 557 line and the new 600s? Dont get me wrong. A 60 degree bolt lift that makes second fast shots from the shoulder a complete impossibility. Its just so short, light, and accurate. Probably going to be the Waypoint. Thanks so much, you guys are great! My two next rifles will be a Weatherby Mark V and a Sako 85. Store. I have mostly x bolt now and really like them but dont think onyx chassis is made for brownings so thinking the tikka t3x but wanted your opinion. I have a Momentum elite varmint in 224 Valkyrie. Hey Jim, love your reviews and videos, just wondering when we might start seeing 7mm PRC rifles becoming more available in stores? What matters is on the paper for 550 dollars and a threaded barrel to boot. I have fond memories of my Weatherby, but the last few years its spent more time in my gun safe while I pack smaller calibers. Price points on the ammo dont put them too far apart when searching on Ammoseek, usually within 5 bucks a box depending upon brand. Purchased an Sig Cross in 6.5 today. Thanks for your thoughts and time! Unsurprisingly, the Momentum is equipped with a synthetic stock. It shoots some factory ammo sub moa as advertised but has been and uphill battle to get hand loaded 88grn eldm's to group consistent. Thanks for doing great work. Watch my review here. If so, what are you impressions of it. Do you have any information on the Howa, or an opinion on which way I should. No. Can you review the spring kit for the factory trigger? Id probably go with the Weatherby, but both guns will be very accurate. Yes if I were going to Alaska where you can run into damp rainy weather for days on end I would either have my Mauser electrolysis nickle plated (it plates even the inside of a receiver and barrel) or if I wanted to get off cheap take a chance on a modern stainless rifle that probably would freeze up in very cold weather with their speed lock mechanisms which are idiotic in a hunting rifle. My main criteria is staying sub 6 lbs if I can for the rifle only and sub moa guarantee. To my surprise John Mogle responded and told me to send in my gun and they would replace the barrel and fix the problem. YOU SHOULD TEST THE SAKO S20 in 6.5 PRC OR THE SAKO BRANDS. The SIG Cross would be a best second choice. Looks like a good buy. franchi momentum anyone got one? | The Stalking Directory I know there will be a lot of hate because Ive been very frank about my opinions, but I test so many rifles that I just wanted one single post that I keep up to date where I can just say it how I see it without any politically correct crap. People harp on me for recommending the Weatherby Vanguard because its essentially the same thing as a Howa 1500, but costs more money. Actually, I like it a lot. Base Price: $816.99: Tax: - In Stock: Back in stock . Overall Length: 42.3 inches I am about ready to purchase the Springfield Waypoint 2020 in 6.5 prc then, i see the Proof Elevation MTR is offered in a 7prc, as is the Rival in a 7prc And dollar for dollar you could never purchase a rifle that guarantees you 1 moa back several years ago for the same relative cost. Its an expensive gun but Ive been hearing good things. Bergara B14 Hunter? Slim Fit Leather Jackets brings this iconic jacket from animation to reality, especially for all the fans of this video game. It can be tough to watch all the individual reviews of rifles that I do on Youtube and get a sense for where each rifle stacks up on the Jim Scale, so in this post, Ill give it to you straight. JavaScript is disabled. I guess Im looking for an under 2K rifle chambered in a 300 win mag. Is it like the other cheap stocks you mentioned I recall in a vid you talked about hunting with Mosin Nagans, the Russian 30.06! You dont want fine wood and blued steel in the rain on a hunt. You mentioned the cheap filling stock. No, naturally I forgot to measure and I didnt keep the targets (estimating with the On Target app based on the dimensions of the ammo box, its about 0.45 MOA). Since Bergara use a Rem 700 barrel (action and trigger too?) Also, I think the X-Bolt Pro just isnt bringing enough to the table for doubling the price over a regular X-Bolt. Love the guns review vid on ones under $500 and everything else! Browning X-Bolt vs Tikka T3/x - M*CARBO Base Price: $789.99: Tax: - In Stock: kygunco.com Buy. Keep up the good work! Both have cold hammer forged barrels 2. a few few hundred cycles smoothed it right up. Great review. I expect to spend a few thousand or more to get what would meet my needs. Regards kjetil A B Strandengen. So if you are shooting 300 win mag, will it throw inaccurate shots on the 3rd shot (or even the 2nd)? Im looking for ANY rifle with a floor plate, metal, and wood but the only two I find are model 70, and browning. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. CVA all the way. Its an EXCELLENT do-all caliber. bolt throw. Great comment, Frank. Still, its the 2020 Waypoint in my opinion. Im well aware that there is stiff competition in the semi-custom rifle category. Alpha? However, if this was not a ringer and indicative of the accuracy to be expected, it would be a great entry level rifle. I would have to agree that no higher end rifle list should ever not have a Mod 70 or a Sako on it. 2) the 6.5 prc vs the 7 prc ( i have 2 338 win mags i am planning on keeping for elk +), My thoughts? I want your opinion on there trigger system. In case anyone is wondering and didnt click the link, its available in 6.5Creedmore. BarrelLength: 22 inches I'm looking at it in 300 win mag. Its a well designed stock, but the fit and finish feels cheesyespecially the checkering pattern they use. Thanks. Jim, Jim, Ive owed most of the brands youve mention here. Can you do a in-depth comparison review of the CVA Cascade vs. Ruger American? I really like the trigger feel, but it is a little heavy. It might be Franchi just trying to stay ahead of magazine restrictions in some (less free) parts of the world. Sign of the times, Im sure you know what Im talking about. In the case of the .308 Winchester tested here, its a 22-inch, cold hammer forged barrel with U.S.-standard 5/8-24 threads. They come in the same price bracket as Tikka rifles but from what I have read, unlike the popular T3X rifles, Sauer 100 rifles I have the 2020 waypoint. Frankly, I just dont see the value in the Werkman. Yes, it shipped with a knurled thread protector but I immediately lost it when I slapped my Dead Air Sandman Ti on. The 300 win mag barrel twist is a little slow, but if you arent going to handload, it should shoot up the 200 grain bullets in factory Ammo just fine. (Momentum 2018 followed by the Momentum Elite 2019). So how do you really feel? I had settled on this for my next rifle based on the Weatherguard coating, price and MOA accuracy guarantee but now it seems we may never see them. So, here are my quick thoughts on some of the competition for the best premium factory rifle under $2,500. The Weatherby Vanguard threaded, Bergara B14, and Howa Carbon Stalker are all models Im researching more to try to come to a definitive decision. it seems well priced at about 600. I was all ready to order the Fierce but I see your post above and now I am on the fence. I found not too long ago a Husqvarna Mauser for $400 bucks in like new condition. One issue that has come up with all three of their guns is having to check and tighten the front and rear action assembly screws. If you are looking at that sub $1000 rifle check out the Bergara Wilderness Ridge (Mine was $850). If you just go in the store, they almost never seem to have any good chambering options. can you give me your thoughts on The Momentum Elite comes with a detachable box-type magazine that holds three or four cartridges (depending on the caliber) for fast, safe and easy loading and unloading. Im really interested in the Benelli Lupo, any chance your going to get your hands on one of those? Regardless, they should have went with a flush mount magazine like the Axis which, if I may add sells new for a third of the Momentums MSRP in my part of the world. Two of them shoot 270s and one in 25-06. You mention that you felt the Browning X-Bolt Pro was not a good fit for a heavy recoil gun. You know Beretta will not support either rifle. funny, I was between the FME and the CVA cascade for a 350L. First of all, LOVE all of your video reviews !! Those are cool, but very heavy guns. Ultimately it still looks and feels like an inexpensive, plastic stock that youd expect to find on a budget hunting rifle. Both the Momentum Elite and the newer Tikka Veil are . As you can see I am a gun collector and have not used my 7 mm Mag. Jim, I think you misspoke about the Ultralite. FRANCHI MOMENTUM ELITE True Price: $ 816.99. I have purchased about 12 different rifles in the sub-$500 price point over the last 3 years to test out for this review. Theres also no shortage of cartridges that send a 6.5mm bullet at much higher velocities than the Swede so I have to assume by your metric those are all superior to the Swede? Im familiar with it, but havent done an official review. Action is amazing and a really great factory trigger. I dont know even they even sell it anymore but about 10-15 years ago my first .308 was a mossberg ATR. Im sure the leupold would be better, but for a 700 dollar difference, Ill see how I like the Burris. Though the forend wasnt perfectly centered coming closer to the left side of the barrel than the right side it was stiff enough that causing it to contact the free-floated barrel was difficult and wouldnt happen under most typical use. and see how it stacks up next to the high end factory rifles. DK. The Momentum is Franchi's hunting rifle, introduced by the Italian firm in 2018. Maybe not, but I have been caught in down pores and all the morons that were with me came back to the car with rust on their guns but not me. To wit: 1. Advice? How about a Bergara Wilderness Ridge in 7 mag? Indeed, the Momentums bolt only travels 60 degrees from fully open to fully locked and vice-versa, whereas your typical 2-lug job requires a 90-degree throw. Remember the cheap skates that passed up Colt Pythons when they were only $260 bucks and now are 10 times that. Even though Im happy with my decision, the Ultralite might have been the better way to go. Are you still doing a full review on that caliber? Can you review the Sako S20 or why havent you done it yet? Hard to go wrong with it for online prices often below $400. Ive killed elk, mule deer and whitetails, with it. I try to ruin stuff like this and am always amazed how much it will take. Hunting rifles per say but not many of the new techno rifles. Ill update the post. Know it is not a bolt action rifle, but how does the Henry Long Ranger stack up against these options? Ergonomics * * * * Just how it shot when the time came. I went with the CVA simply for that reason. Thanks. The new Franchi Momentum is darn near an exact copy to the Ruger American. Best purchase I ever made. Id pick the CVA Cascade from that group. x bolt is about 150 or more expensive. The Franchi Momentum Elite Bolt-Action Rifle also has a 1-piece 1913 Picatinny rail that permits flexible accommodation of various aftermarket optics. And youre right about the cost of Weatherby ammo. A very solid four stars here for the Franchi Momentum bolt-action rifle. Ive been a little coy about recommending one specific rifle in this price range because its a tight race. A very accurate danish produced rifle. Gun Review: Franchi Momentum Rifle in .308 Win, School Security: As a Parent, Hold Your School Officials Accountable, Campus Carry Celebrates Two Years in Texas, Doomsayer Professors Refuse to Comment, Gun Review: Smith & Wesson Model 317 Kit Gun .22LR Revolver, Oh, The Humanity: Latest Polling Shows a Majority of Americans Now Oppose an Assault Weapons Ban, Smith & Wesson Announces the New M&P FPC Pistol Caliber Carbine. Bergara is intriguing, but I cant understand why its heavier. (The extra mags are also only like $20 which is nice, too.) The more you talk the clearer it becomes that youve never held much less used a gun. Same as you, I wish the offerings were a bit better. Ruger Americans are fantastic. There really isnt much to complain about on a Bergara B-14. What is your honest opinion of the CZ 600 Those all sound like good options. Jim love your channel. . Usage for the rifle would be long distance hobby shooting, but also potentially taking it on everything from whitetail up to moose for a hunt should I ever get in to the sport with my brothers and dad. I havent heard you talk much about the Seekins rifles, any thoughts on them? $699.00. Every Weatherby Ive ever shot has been exceptionally accurate and well-built. All six chamberings available in U.S.-market Momentums come with a threaded barrel. Take your pick but you get a super reliable gun and if you ever broke an extractor or firing pin you can change them out right in the field within minutes. Seems like a lot of bang for the buck. Saving a penny by not buying grease and oil costs you hundreds of dollars in rust repair. The action is a Mauser type like Sako. Thanks! The stock looks like a varmint/tactical/long range/hunting compromise, and may do those thing well, its just not what I was looking for. Franchi, a 150-year-old shotgun manufacturer, clearly felt it was high time an affordable Italian hunting rifle hit U.S. shores. this are what i like long range in a good rifle, with hornady ammo. I stewed over it for a minute but he made me answer, and I said to go with the Tikka T3x Lite. New for 2021: Franchi Momentum Elite Rifle - YouTube You are using an out of date browser. Mostly hand carried, thick timber and hills in foul weather. I would love those see a review of the Benelli Lupo.Ive been shooting mine for little while now and I have to say it is a very accurate hunting rifle with a great ability to conform to just about anybody.Hope to see a review in the near future.Da Butcher. ISO: 20ga (semi-auto, sxs, and o/u in order of priority), Recommendation for a tarp for my pack - mostly going to use to put quarters on but, FORLOH AllClima Softshell and AllClima Stretch Woven Pant Review. MSRP:$609 (about $450 retail). Id like to see how the Sauer 100 performs. I loved the way it shot and felt. The Carbon Predator looks cool, but really just a slight variation on the 110 ultralite. The Elite Varmint, introduced last year, should readily . Yeah, the Reaper is pretty awesome. **sorry for posting this comment on another article, but I guess this is the more suitable article for this discussion. Plus, it uses an old-school sporter stock that just isnt what todays long-range shooter is looking for. 1) the quality from rifle to rifle Mine shoots 1/2 MOA with handloads, Available in: 6 Creedmoor, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC, .308 Win, Available in: 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC, .308 Win, 300 Win Mag. I could go for a more grabby grip myself, but the Momentums checkering is certainly sufficient. Excellent in every way but its expensive. Hello Jim, great article. Hi Jim. 1 Image (s) Franchi Momentum Elite 6.5 Creed Realtree Excape 24" TB Burnt Bronze 41606. Going to take the plungedeep. It is aggravating that the stock hugs the barrel on one side, but it doesnt contact on mine. Just doing a bit of research on the Momentum because the local gun store has a bunch on sale. Thanks, I have looked all over and cant find out much about these.
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