Dog owners here are not mindful of where their dog goes the owners are tending to their own life: working, raising children, running a business, or resting during the hot days. I never received a response. Only a fool thinks they were attacked by people. What Really Happened To Two Dutch Hikers Who Disappeared In Panama? Id love to know if these pics exsist. If one or both of the phones were missing, it would have generated more questions. Any idea of the exact location where this picture is taken? A disturbing set of photographs are at the center of a mystery of the disappearance and death of two young women in Panama and local authorities are currently bewildered by a conspicuously missing photo file on their SD card. Also, I live in El Salvador, less than 1,000 kilometers from Panama, which has many cultural similarities. This is so surreal. Maybe one girl regained consciousness at night and took the pictures. I dont really speculate much with psychic readings or energy. because why else would they have continued access to their phones for the next week? The structure at the back of this small ravine looks like a hideout that a military man might make, as part of survival training in the jungle. Yes indeed!I hadnt noticed that before!is it a carved rock of sorts?. The last half either had a wrong password, or simply no password at all was entered. Perhaps that is where this photo was taken and a search should be done there. They protested in China - now they've gone missing. On April 1, the 21-year-old and 22-year-old went for a walk . Can it explain Lisannes foot that was broken? Ive even been contacted by people in Asia. Nobody is safe. However, one particular group of indigenous people were discovered (updated, old link) in January 2020 to be capturing people, torturing them and offering them as human sacrifices. But most people going on a hike with a dog would take some pictures of themselves with the dog, right? But we need to be careful about the information we have. In all the other pictures she is always got her arms visible, I find this very odd. Political corruption runs rampant, depending on the community, which has a cascading effect on law enforcement and local crime. As the effort wore on, they enlisted the help of the Wisconsin-based volunteer search and recovery organization Bruce's Legacy and set up a GoFundMe to help defray the costs of bringing the nonprofit to Panama. Where is YNW Melly? Poor investigations and low standards are very common in these under-developed countries. Such a tragedy. Or if they went, they could have been followed by someone the murderer (or murderers). Im sure removal of the comment was justified, but in considering all possibilities Im curious if there was there any insight offered? Missing Lynn Haven juveniles. I see the nose and mouth and possibly and eye, like they were trying to hide from the girls or camera and peaking behind branches creepy. Also, I do not know about the girls living situation and the relationship between the girls and the owner. The theory of being lost is so plausible in a Jungle but then the photos .. the speculation can never end. The jungle was searched for another ten days with the help of the cops from the Netherlands - but there was no sign of the girls. Im starting to think the girls were lured to Panama by some kind of human trafficking organization that might even be run out of the Netherlands. She realizes she has to try to find the river and decides to leave at dawn. I believe that by the time this photo was taken, the situation has gone sideways. Celebrity. How many tourists go missing in Australia each year? But because of their theatrics and ignoring the evidence, the story and curiosity will continue to keep this case alive. Cops quizzed locals, tour guides and other hikers, but only the photos and call logs provided a slither of evidence as to what had happened. Hi, do you know when and where this book will be available? And her shirt is pushed up. There is an international consortium working behind the scenes to slowly and methodically continue the investigation. Caruso, 56, died on June 17 after staying at the Boca Chica Resort in Santo Domingo. I think most of what people are seeing -other than the obvious, of course- is pareidolia. He went into the girls room without police, he was involved with finding of the backpack, and also the bones. But even when a phone is locked after thee attempts the screen says emergency calls only. I dissagree with her hand beeing tied. RIP sweet girls. Anyway thanks again this is such a fascinating case I wish there would be some kind of closure for the families (although I saw a you tube video that interviewed the father of one of the girls, he said that they hired their own investigator and determined they died of an accidental fall. The girls took photos of so many things, even many mundane thingsbut for some reason the dog wasnt present in any of the photos.
Nearly 100,000 people in Mexico have disappeared | Fox News Two intelligent girls could not be veering off course to this dense vegetation on their own accord. This is something I will surely investigate more and write about in the future. The date read April 1, the day of their fateful hike. The police, the media attention, the suspicions on him. From Chriss other article it seems the girls took a taxi to the hiking starting point? It appears to me that Kris has her right arm to her right temple and you can see part of her left elbow. Dutch tourists in Panama Two Dutch tourists Kris Lemers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22 disappeared while out on a hike in Panama in April 2004. History is not a science but it can include some science. I realize that its more interesting to make things more ominous than they are but this is a very sad case of two naive girls who were totally unprepared for their adventure and very sadly got lost, injured and succumbed to nature. On the other hand, its more dangerous and risky. However, on closer inspection you can see that the left hand side of the post is really a vine or root hanging straight down and the white at the top is a patch of light in the background, as if there was a small narrow window in the bank Through which the sun is shining and it also looks as though someone is looking through it at Kris. Its our fingerprints, the police say. I do get very creepy and bad vibes from this photo though. Two Dutch tourists Kris Lemers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22 disappeared while out on a hike in Panama in April 2004. Ive considered a number of possibilities on the pictures. While I do believe eventually, and possibly soon after this, there was foul play, I dont think anything untoward was happening as of this photo. I read that the backpack belonged to Lisanne Froon. I think that this is a photoshopped image made by cutting out a picture of Kris and pasting it onto a background to give the false impression that Kris and Lisanne went on the Pianista Trail. ITS SHAPED LIKE A BRA. The next morning, on April 2nd, a substantial earthquake of magnitude 6.0 hits Panama at 11:13 AM. Again, I stress that these kind of murder cases are frequently shut down by the media of the country at the direction of the government. Perhaps the photos served astrail markersto help the young women find their way around or back to therescuers. Could fishing line be being used to secure all this making it hard to see, & could that blue object on the ground be part of the roof device- step on it & it triggers it or something like that? That does not make sense if they were genuine. After this, can ANYONE IN THIS WORLD still doubt that this girl WOULD NOT HAVE WRITTEN OR PHONED HER MOTHER FOR TWO WEEKS when she also called the police 100 times? Ive met a few people that have maintained their pet in the same way as we do in the USA. She must therefore be in a house or building of some kind and therefore being kept prisoner at least for the 8 days before that photo was taken. JW, I agree with you totally, thanks for your intelligent remarks! The place itself might reveal some clues as to what sort of person or people would construct it and what are the chances of them doing something bad. The photos give the appearance that they are PROMPTED to go ahead by someone. For the next four days they travel. Reading this reminded me of another photo the girls took of a branch with what appears to be red plastic attached to it. Image 505 is actually the last image before the night photos. Kris has somewhat prominent cheeks and a full lower lip. When a bad break happens at ankle level and the body decomposes and gets scavenged once the flesh and muscle is gone the foot and shoe are separated from the rest of the leg. I believe that this case WILL be solved. If you are in the middle of the jungle, lost, and desperately trying to find service, why waste your battery by logging into your phone. thank you for sharing this. I want to come!! Where did you hear this? This connected callwas stable for roughly two seconds. And one of the images chillingly showed the back of Kris' head with what some sleuthes believe is blood leaking from her temple. Their bodies were located after more than 690 hours of searching. Hence the bras and everything safely stacked in the backpack together both girls sunglasses and both girls phones (otherwise each girl would be carrying her own phone). Look for an ex-military man who may be the culprit. Maybe a struggle or fall? I could be wrong, but to me this looks like it could be a hunting device of sorts, like a pit/catch trap. Likelihood the predator will strike again: 99.9% unless predator has died. The arbitrary pictures looked focused as if steady hands took the shots, suggesting they were intentional. I dont buy it that those girls were murdered on the pianista trail. If anything, they work harder to try and bring anyone to justice that harms a tourist. As for the wrong password entry. Photo #509 was permanently deleted which takes advanced technical knowledge, plus a computer. In the Americas, more than 6,200 people have been reported dead or missing during migration since 2014.
Dutch Women Who Went Missing in Panama Confirmed Dead - NBC News On closer inspection this and the cave photo appear heavily manipulated. It could help shed more light onto the possible answer to the mystery. It only makes the image look more detailed, but the detail is artificial and can be very misleading. We live in interesting times. If you watch the four part video of the entire trail beyond the Mirador you will see exactly where this photo was taken, and there is not a cave or ledge or ravine anywhere near her. Ive seen the chronological order of the photos posted by Scarlet and some of the strikes me as being askew. Two Dutch women who went missing in April in Panama are now confirmed dead, according to police and the women's families. Sorry Chris, having re-read what you said at the beginning of your article and having stared at the photo a for a bit longer, I can definitely see the corner of a kind of pitched, thatched roof of a what looks like a man-made hut. However, if Kremers and Froon had found manmade ramshackle structures during their hike, such as the possible items viewed in this photo, its possible they had unwanted company. One was left above. The first thing that strikes me as very odd in this photograph and I think I havent seen anyone pointing that out yet -, is a specific number. There are more answers out there that are still possible to gather. Do we know who owned the dog named Blue (aka Azul). Not saying that its impossible, but very VERY difficult to edit photos seamlessly. I was definitely thinking it looks like her hands might be tied behind her back here. And there have been some other unsolved murders in the same area where the girls were. 1 reason tourists sometimes annoy residents. In a mind-blowing theory, Dick Steffens, a former detective in Amsterdam, claimed Kris could still be alive after she was trafficked into the sex trade by a kidnapper roaming in the jungle. Why is no one talking about what appears to be a rock painting or a carving 3-4 feet in front of her? Despite the heat and humidity, Panamanians wear long pants and closed-toe shoes. she does see something disgusting. Their families believed the women were still in the unrecovered plane wreckage, and as the search stretched on for days and then weeks, they pleaded with the U.S. government for help they said never came. Each year, around 30,000 people are reported missing in Australiaone person every 18 minutes. This makes no sense. That is why the poor often resort to vigilantism. Also I wish we new more details on the phones. The illusion of her being tied and in distress is nothing more than that. She decided to attempt to reach her friend, or help via phone. And more on this most people in Latin America that permit their dog to walk freely do not keep track of where their dog goes. To the right of the body is a cross fashioned out of two poles, as is customary in Panama. Perhaps he gave some other persons a lift with the girls as is one of the stories out there. While posing with sticking out your tongue means for a Dutch native you found something disgusting, especially while simultaneously closing your eyes. . Why are both her hands behind her back? Its difficult to see when glancing at the photo, because it looks like Kriss head is referencing something the ground. When the girls were vacationing in South Panama it shows a photo of them in the ocean, and behind them in the ocean is a fat white man seemingly staring at them. You said it seems to me that they want to destroy the investigation I agree with you that it seems intentional to some degree. He has some resources at his disposal. Its possible theres a painted insignia on the post to right of Kris. Since they were two young women from Europe, I can easily see the possibility that they offended the wrong man. People began to suspect something happened whenthe dog Blue returned from the hike unaccompanied. Los expertos en conductas humanas (psiclogos, antroplogos, etc. I do see the supports and I think thats manmade also. But the call logs gave the cops a rough outline of the time the girls spent missing in the jungle. However, upon closer inspection, shes really ducking her head as to say look at the things over my head. Yes, the photo data was manipulated. Did they each have a camera or only Lisanne? The emergency calls still dont go through. Europe is the world . Thanks for sharing this info. again, this has been superimposed on the scene and again her feet are obscured because she is not wearing boots. However there appear to be yellowish/beige shadows and it looks like a sandstone cliff. Despite search teams, which included dogs and helicopters, there were no . One question sticking to the government interference and coverup, with the deletion of a photo (nr, 531?) She is not tied up, there is no rope around her waist and there are no hidden or blurry people in the photo. To this day, the disappearance and tragic deaths of Kris and Lisanne remains a harrowing mystery. It suggest that this case goes deeper than we imagine. Please support us we cant do it without you. I think this photo in particular is odd. The Velleman family had been in touch with several Wisconsin and Illinois representatives as they sought assistance from the U.S. government in the search and recovery effort. How come there are so many disappearances in S. America Granted, other dangers certainly exist and thats why we can only speculate about what happened to them. The insignia looks more like a darkish skinned face peering through a narrow window and observing the girls from behind some sort of screen. I upscaled that image with AI correction and its 100x more clear that there is obviously a trap or makeshift roofing above her. I like the wit and sarcasm. For forensic work, any such upsampling is worthless. I hope one day they will find more answers.