Obviously there are others, but these two usually seem to have reasonable and unbiased thoughts on their rivals. With Striders salaries now set through the 2028 season, the Braves, incredibly, already have $76MM on the books six years down the line. Marlins will never have the fanbase to be elite. Just like it wont be a collapse when the Braves get smoked in the playoffs. Spencer Strider undoubtedly earns a substantial sum of money from his sole career in baseball. Are you trying to evade someone or are you incapable of understanding the difference between elude and allude. https://community.fangraphs.com/velocity-and-the-likelihood-of-tommy-john-surgery/. Spencer Strider's net worth $1 million. The Braves have zero middle infield prospects on their top 4 mil teams. I will let you do the math. Around $150 million for those 7 seasons. For instance, John Blitzer tried saying Soto was worth almost $200M in excess value for 2.5 seasons, while still paying him $60M in salary. If you wait a year or two and he continues to pitch well, then his pricetag doubles. Baez 14.5 WAR Thats more than any other team in baseball. Yes, the poor ownership of the past is directly related to the problem but that teams problem going forward will always been the fan support. He would have been Arb 1 eligible after 2024. Jared Shuster, LHP 4. older demographic) are even able to do that? Just need to sign Vaughn, Fried, and Wright to extensions. The Mets only have one tool in the toolbox and that tool is green if you know what I mean. The move is retroactive to Sept. 21 and Strider has not pitched since last Sunday. Enormous good sense like instead of his 2023 and 2024 contract only counting for $1M against the salary cap each year on a year-to-year deal, He now counts almost $15M against the cap even when hes making $1M a year. Most likely, he wouldnt get anywhere near that much in arbitration. Does he hit enough to play left field? Should just stop there because even mentioning that website shows a complete disconnection from reality. He only throws 100 MPH? The backend of this deal reminds me of Wil Myers, only in the sense that you have 3 years of $20M+ that start multiple years after the extension was reached. Doubt theres one single reason that either the Braves or Strider decided this was the best course of action other than it benefits both parties. Makes it much harder to trade him away too with such a high salary in those years. Its just the law of averages. Troll on books. Talks a lot about eating correctly, training well, and staying mentally fit. It is purely a way to get extra money in the hands of 0-3 year service time players who are not arbitration eligible and subject to receiving the league minimum. Thats $75M gone off the top, bringing their net total to $175M.If that same deal gets signed in New York, you can take extra $25M off. They already have the best cost control in baseball. His decline in velocity at the end of his outing may just be a conditioning issue due to his inactivity. Corbin Burnes is entering his 5th full season and 2nd pass through arbitration, which is only projected to pay him $11.3M. Strider was 11-5 with a 2.67 ERA in 31 games this season. A.J. So $250M from a team in Texas is worth $175M, while the offer from the Yankees or Mets for $250M is worth only $150M due to the tax difference. That 4th year is going to be around $30 million and his FA is going to be more than that. I think its even more encouraging within you're organization to know your going to have that nucleus every year.. All of these pitchers threw almost as hard if not equally as hard as Strider, all had varying degrees of success, and none of them even made $40M in arbitration. On the other hand, a subscription to Apple TV+ is remarkably cheap, comparatively: $4.99 a month or $49.99 a year. Story 16.2 WAR Harper sold and sells lots of tickets etc and great pr. The Mets performance was more surprising than the Braves. The Marlins are one new owner away from being elite. For the fans sake, I hope ownership realizes the value of spending some money and they re-sign Swanson. So the only time he could qualify for Super 2 status is after 2023. The point isnt whether this ends up being a bad deal, its that it follows bad process. Striders been out for close to a month recovering from a mild oblique strain. Enjoy the Braves playoff run while you whimper about what could have been for your Mutts. Command was an issue at times in the minors and early in the season, but Strider markedly scaled back on the number of free passes he yielded as the season wore on, finishing out the year with an 8.5% walk rate that was scarcely north of the league average. It made them woke enough to move the all star game, but now they are ok? Pads Fan. Use of any marks, trademarks, or logos on this website shall not constitute a sponsorship or endorsement by the trademark holder. Strider retired all three batters he faced Wednesday while throwing his first simulated game of spring training, Justin Toscano of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports. One thing is certain: he divides his time between the four MLB teams Spencer Strider- Birth, Age, Ethnicity, Siblings, Education He didnt go to the Yankees because he was a Yankee fan. Braves are the smartest team in baseball. 2026: $14-15M Right?? He has not stated how much he was paid by the teams while getting picked by the MLB. His current contract terms are 6 yrs/$75M (23-28) & 29 team option. FF fired his agent. To quote Barney from the Simpsons, Not again!. The risks are present, but the reward is fantastic, not to mention that it gives you the inside track in a few years to talk a further extension. There is a reason pitchers are not given long term deals because it is more risky than giving those deals to hitters because of injury and even then, the hitters rarely justify the extensions. So with that logic, lets use his first two years of arbitration to show how much of an overpay the Strider deal is because Ohtani only got like $8.5M for year 1 and 2, with him being a full-time hitter as well. Has to be mostly geographic. I believe 2027 is the final year of that infamous TV deal that hasnt been the cash cow many other lesser franchises have benefitted from. Not the other way around. Strider already had TJS while he was still at Clemson. He will earn $1 million per season in 2023 and 2024, $4 million in 2025, $20 million in 2026, and $22 million per season in 2027-2028. He will receive an extra year of service time for that. We just cant afford to pay you market price. If he is 2nd in ROY he is credited with a full year of service so he definitely would NOT be a Super Two. I really hope Dansby is extended and I think he will (hes a local guy and by all accounts loves being a Brave). Even if he does remain this good in a best case scenario, he would only approach the amount hes being guaranteed over those 2 pre-arb years and 3 arb years, and the team should get a significant discount on those arb years in such an early career extension, anyway. Even then, Strider still has to match two of the best young pitchers in the game over the next 5 years to even have that conversation, which is not likely. Strider will qualify for Super Two. $200 per post at $10/CPM. You are going in with an assumption that he will absolutely get it. Btw, Max Fried and Kyle Wright arent garbage. He was surely damaged goods at that pointat least to some degree.. Baez is also known as a reflex player, as in his dropoff is likely to be catastrophic, costing you the entirety of the last years of his deal. Dont know what thats worth, but its not nothin. Know it all..not no-it-all. Imo, you made a reasonable case for your trade evaluation w/out the amateur psychological evaluation. ET, many of these same folks were discussing an extension that could keep the rookie sensation in Atlanta until at least the 2028 season. The point of early extensions is to create financial flexibility, not to lock yourself into just a few core players. Hes not 65 and 230 lbs. Extra year for having a mustache. He quickly established himself as one of the teams hardest fastball players. Read more at MLB Trade Rumors. I was comparing their first full seasons. If youre going to belittle someone while claiming to have knowledge of their inferior educational level, you should probably try spelling your insults correctly. Its called creative license. Which is probably why they didnt. Well, the rich smart teams. Most annoying 3-2 hitter Ive watched all season. If the right billionaire acquired them and they signed say Judge, Trea and Arenado, this would be one truly awesome team and their payroll would still be less than several other teams. Saying that strider pitched last year too as the focal point of your comparison is disingenuous. For someone who walked 13.5% of his opponents over the first two months of the season, the improvement was as remarkable as it was rapid; from June 10 onward, Strider walked just 6.8% of his opponents. Hes been healthy for 3 straight years. Its still a win for both player and team, but the glut of long-term deals does inflate the Braves luxury ledger more quickly than a year-by-year approach would. SUMMARY 2022 Career WAR 3.7 3.7 W 11 12 L 5 5 ERA 2.67 2.69 G 31 33 GS 20 20 SV 0 0 IP 131.2 134.0 SO 202 202 WHIP 0.995 1.000 Shane Spencer didnt have elite closer K numbers as a starting pitcher. Hopefully Strider has a great career and its not an issue, but if it goes poorly thats not going to be a fun contract to have on the books in 2026-2028. If his contact rate and barrel rate drops a little, his strikeout total will skyrocket even higher and his homeruns will fall off a cliff. Baseball Almanac is pleased to present a unique . Its a league funded thing that every team will chip into $1.66 mil regardless. Spencer Schwellenbach, RHP 10. His third career outing was his most dominant at the Major League level as Strider's strikeouts came on fastballs clocked at 99.2, 100.3, 100.3, 99.8 and 99.8 mph. Spencer Strider - Stats - Pitching | FanGraphs Baseball Spencer Strider Atlanta Braves Age: 24 Bats/Throws: R/R 6' 0" / 195 P Quick Look 2022 Pitch Summary: FA: 67% SL: 28% Prospects Report. Players dont sign team friendly contacts because they are happy where they are(Jose Ramirez disagreeS. But how good is this example? The Braves also surely are still hopeful of extending Fried, whos controlled through the 2024 season. Sure there is a chance that the Braves might save $20 million plus if Strider becomes an ace, but they are far more likely to waste $20 million plus if he doesnt. Wouldve been a massive overpay. Maybe MLB realizes that they werent actually racist. And it becomes contagious in the clubhouse imo. I mean, were talking about MLB thats chosen to segregate their most loyal fans by continuing blacking-out games and fracturing the TV market with money-grab, inane exclusive streaming deals (i.e. Confirmation bias confirms nothing but poor process. The Braves paid him $75M. Atlanta has a chance to squeeze out of fistload of rings before the Nats come of age and steamroll the Senior Circuit. TJ surgery for Munoz, Greene, and almost every other guy to hit 99+ mph. He played college baseball for the Clemson Tigers, and was drafted by the Atlanta Braves in the fourth round of the 2020 Major League Baseball Draft. Strider averaged 13.8 strikeouts per nine innings - best in the big leagues - while posting an 11-5 record, 2.67 earned run average, and 202 strikeouts in 131 2/3 innings. The Marlins simply smell. You dont need to extend Grissom. Meanwhile the Mets toss money at aging crap. Striders a freak athlete whos constantly striving to better his performance by physical training and analytic advancements. I used Harvey as a buyer beware caution notice. Creating a winning environment. Going to be stunned if AA downgrades at SS w/their current competitive excellence at all other positions except left field. My point was that Soto would be worth at best $140M in excess value, he tried justifying the $200M by saying it was the premium for trading for a star. Is MLB ok with them now? Spencer Strider was born in Columbus, OH. Back when Acuna signed his eight-year, $100MM extension, that was the largest deal ever for a position player with under a year of big league service. Most pitchers do that. @Lanidrac Its very unlikely to hurt the Braves badly, since short of catastrophic injury (for which theyll probably have insurance) theyd be keeping him around anyway, shepherding him through TJ should that happen, paying arb awards, collecting insurance. Ive had it with my cable provider. It was that year I knew hed be a douchebag for being a Yankee bandwagoner in SoCal. The league would never agree to that. They are paying $44 million max for both years and its likely that a single season of a TOR starter in 5 years will cost close to that much. They just gave him $53M for his 3 arb years. Cohen signed Scherzer and paid this guy a kings ransom to win the game in Atlanta and at Citi Field against the Padres. Most rookies dont end up becoming Aaron Judge BTW. Grisssoms a likely utility player or trade chip. Let's check, How Rich is Ralph, Efrain Valdez estimated Net Worth, Biography, Age, Height, Dating, Relationship Records, Salary, Income, Cars, Lifestyles & many more details have been updated below. Thank_ God: The correct sentence structure you should have put is.. Try used instead of put. Elude.? Except theyre going up against the Yankees time slots. Now ya have your CF 1b 2b 3b rf and strider all signed to under market value contracts and still have money to sign swanson and dip into free agent pool. Degrom was 29 in his first arbitration year coming off a season no where near as dominant as Strider. Prior to his walk year, he had an 8.8 career bWAR, or 2.1/650 PAs. The only IF is whether hell stay healthy and productive enough to earn the money. Amateur career [ edit] One thing is certain: he divides his time between the four MLB teams. But not to worry, I did that for you. The sum he agreed to when being selected by MLB teams has not been made public. Lets say you are going to a MLB game at your local stadium and for-the-sake-of-argument lets say there are only 4 seat choices: bleachers $15, nose-bleeds (2nd & 3rd deck) $40, between 1st and 3rd base behind the dugouts for $100, and a seat in a suite for $150. Because extensions, more so than free-agent contracts, draw heavily from recent comparables, the Strider deal in many ways paves the way for new precedent to be established in multiple service classes. Thats only one example, but theres so much more risk on the free agent market (especially when looking for TOR arms) than locking up someone that could slot into that. Olson can go either way, I think. The Dodgers play on the west coast and you want them to play earlier then the Braves? Google elude. Much of the play-by-play, game results, and transaction information both shown and used to create certain data sets was obtained free of charge from and is copyrighted by RetroSheet. You know how you can tell you are wrong? $12M (2025) Without the extension, Strider would have been eligible for free agency after the '27 season. As for real estate, go check the difference. If they succeed in signing both Swanson and Fried, theres virtually no path to avoiding the luxury tax. If he is not sent down in 2023 he will finish 2023 with 2 years and 3 days of service time. Just saying. @Run. Apple TV games are free this year. He easily would have been a Super 2 as well. His arbitration would have been in line with the highest ever.